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I don't like questions like this and feel they are unfair. They do nothing but stir up emotions and bring debates that are seldom debates but emotional slam-banging. To ask if someone would save a child or a dog is unthinkable and shameful.

What is unfair about a question like this? If one "feels" like this is a unfair question then you must lean towards saving .............?I got one better than that,to even have to ponder the question and not hesitate to answer and put the human first,is well in itself lacking of emotion towards your fellow man,and makes a human even less human.

I am a new member & have recently reviewed some of the posts on various topics. In doing so I couldn't help but notice the numerous negative posts from someone called shortfuses. It appears that this individual has quite a chip on his/her shoulder and attempts to bash anyone that supports improving the enviroment, or anyone with "liberal/left leaning beliefs". It is sad to read his/her same old tired character attacks & makes me realize just how hard it will be to make the changes that this world needs to survive in the future. Rather than agreeing that there are real issues & offering concrete solutions, shotfuses throws mean spirited attacks on every topic site.

We can no longer ignore the very obvious changes that are taking place on planet Earth. We can not assume that technology will solve these problems. The world & all its passengers are inextricably linked in an extremely complicated web so one change can have a domino effect on many many other areas. We DO need to limit population. We DO need to switch to safer sources of energy. We DO need to change our lifestyles. The alternative is that we do nothing, ignore the future and live as innumerable self-centered individualists where our behavior leads to continued degradation of the earths FINITE resources.

Look at Easter Island as an example of Man's ignorant use of resources. Scientists have heavily studied this island with its enigmatic statues. Today the island is denuded of trees. There are none. Yet it is known that before man arrived, the entire island was covered in lush woods. Over the course of a few hundred years, man in his infinite wisdom chopped every last tree down. The net result is that man vanished from the island and his "civilization" vanished. Why? Because he used up the island's main resource to his own detriment. The choices we now face as a world population are extremely hard ones and will indeed cause us all to make extreme sacrafices. The alternative course is to do nothing and while we may still enjoy a decent life, future generations will only see their lifesty;es decline to the point of our own extinction as a species.

Shorty just likes to instigate and he seems to embrace taking an opposite stand on every issue… Even if he agrees.

I believe he means well but his negativity DOES get old.

I don't just take a side to rock the boat. All statements that I have posted are what I believe. It just shows the difference tween liberal and conservative minds. If I disagree, I will tell you why,not based on my "feelings" as most do on this board.


Where do you live again Brass Monkey?

I have to agree with Wholewheat. That's not what I was expecting from this website, that's for sure. I haven't been here that long and it's very old.

The Green Speak network takes pride in being an open forum for discussion about the environment. Not everyone has the same opinions about how to be green but we believe everyone should have to opportunity to voice their opinion.

I think we should consider members like Shortfuses a challenge for our group because its friends like him we need to reach. Being green is a lifestyle not a political standpoint.

I beg to differ Verde. You mean scaring kids in school that the end of the world is coming has nothing to due with politics? Polar bears are dying because of man made global warming,or is it man made climate change? The earth is going to burn up is taught to kids because of this global warming. Just a few years ago when we had hurricanes,it was because of global warming,or is it climate change. We haven't had any hurricanes to speak of the past 3 years. kids are taught that CO2 is a pollutant? Earth liberation Front is knocking down radio towers because they don't look good? What about those ugly windmills killing all those birds,that's not a political move by the green movement?

What is cap and trade? If that is not a part of the green movement then I am a green-neck. Barrack Hussein Obama telling me that I need to use those squirely light bulbs,cause they save energy,yet contain mercury? C'mon,