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Post Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:02 pm

Re: increase wealth by 5000 percent

man can make clouds, and lightning and rain but I want to point out that you are making dirt with your compost.

Tesla created lightning, I can condence water and make "clouds" and as for rain well all man has to do is weight the moisture down in atmospheric clouds using aluminum or magneseium particles. Been done in many locations over many decades.

Now you have to believe. You didn't specify on what scale. I presented you with your answers.

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Post Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:22 pm

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Where are the locations where rain has been made from clouds that were man made? If it were as easy as you say,then why do we have drought? Man can control NOTHING,NOTHING about the weather or the climate. If it were so it would not have gotten up a 104* here in Texas the other day. We wouldn't need a/c here in the south. N. Dakota would not have the coldest June on record as I posted the other day. There would be no starvation because we could control the weather and grow crops to feed the hungry. Factiod,we cannot even predict how much rain will fall from a rainstorm and where the rain will and will not fall from a storm as it approaches.

I am sure you can make clouds in a controled situation,but on a scale the size of earth..foe geta bout it. Can we stop floods, stop drought, stop freezing, stop heat.we can't control any of these,and we can't make weather,so to think that we can stop as it's called now "CLIMATE CHANGE" is sheer aragonce on the part of man. Or is it back to global warming or in a few days when science finds out the earth is cooling we will have global cooling.

The weather CHANGES EVERYDAY,IT ALWAYS HAS,AND FOR A LITTLE WHILE LONGER IT ALWAYS WILL.
DON'T FORGET we are subject to the 2nd law of thermodynamics,the earth and you cannot escape it.It is a fascinating law.

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Post Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:16 pm

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Please explain the second law of thermodynamics as it relates to the earth, the transferance of heat from one body to another (sun to earth) and the energy usage that creates a build up of heat in the system.

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Post Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:07 pm

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The first law is this: The matter and energy that was part of the original creation is all there will ever be; no new matter or energy is being created. The complete cessation of creative activity has been recognized by modern science as the first law of thermodynamics, or the law of the conservation of mass and energy. According to this law, which is one of the most universal and certain of all scientific principles, nothing is now being created or destroyed

The second law of thermodynamics is this:This law, also known as the law of entropy, tells us that though energy cannot be destroyed, its ability to do useful work decreases. Systems tend to degenerate from a state of order to a state of chaos. Science tells us that eventually this process will lead to the death of the universe.

The second law of thermodynamics states that although mass and energy are always conserved, they nevertheless are breaking down and going from order to disorder, from cosmos to chaos, from system to non-system

An example would be building a new house.if you left it alone it would fall apart. The earth is slowing in it's rotation on it's axis.after time it will wobble like a spinning top. The great pyramids of Egypt are decaying. The momemt you wher born you began to die.

Where are the locations that man has created rain to subdue a crisis on the earth in a lagre scale?

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Post Sun Jul 19, 2009 10:19 pm

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The chinese seeded cloud heavily before the olympics with pretty good results. No it wasn't to overt crisis but it was successful.

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Post Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:18 am

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are you kool with the first and second laws of our universe now?

I would be more impressed with mankind if he were to make his own clouds,seeding is cheating and a desperate act at something that man cannot control. How much fell? Did it serve it's purpose? how long did it rain? Over how much of an area?

Another method, hygroscopic cloud seeding (which some scientists say holds the most promise today), uses materials such as salt to provide a droplet-attracting nucleus; it can be used in warmer clouds. Both methods, whether dispersed through planes or rocket launchers, need to start with a cloud; "they can't create clouds". Cloud seeding is more like cloud fertilizing: It tries to make a cloud a more efficient producer of rain or snow http://www.salon.com/env/feature/2008/0 ... d_seeding/

You see urban man cannot create clouds. It reverts back to the law of thermodynamics which says that there is nothing new that can be created. The chinese spend about 90 million a year trying to create rain.

The chinese were trying to "prevent" rain from entering the city.
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